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SimonT
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Just bought a Polar CD200 CAD Heart Rate Monitor. Has anyone got a more accurate formula for setting the Max Heart Rate and zones etc other than 220 minus my age ? I've heard all sorts about different formulas and wondered if anyone has experience of these ? I know Paul mentioned he might have a formula to work from ?
December 31, 2011 at 5:41 AM Flag Quote & Reply

The Badger
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Can we organise a trip to one of the places that can do all the tests like VO2 max etc. I know we have talked about it before but I would be really keen to see what level of unfitness I am at.

Simon, you could wear it while you do the hill climb repeats up castle hill. I'm pretty sure you will max out on that.


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December 31, 2011 at 5:50 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Lee Hyson
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From what i've read and dabbled with H.R zones myself there's seems a load of variables from person to person. The old 220 minus your age is a ball park figure, going on that i should have a max of 181bpm but i've hit 187bpm hammering Castle lane.

Also on one ride you could feel really energetic and max out at say 190+bpm but then on another ride when you're fatigued you'd maybe struggle to hit 175bpm !!

Just for interest i set my Polar HRM's lower limit at 140bpm (anything under 140 is easy/recovery riding) and maximum at 170bpm ( anything above 170 and i'm starting to feel the strain).

Have a general play around with the zones when you're riding Simon and get a feel for what suits a mixtures of efforts.

December 31, 2011 at 10:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

B&DCC
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I think the best solution is to get Paul Jezweski involved , and he will be able to do a test on the Turbo Trainer at one of the Thursday night sessions...im sure he will post here very soon

December 31, 2011 at 12:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Simon Gaddes
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VO2 max tests were pretty much a routine in my rowing days. I can dig out my old test procedures and see if they will adapt from ergometers to turbo's if all else fails? Just let me know. 

December 31, 2011 at 12:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Bill Seddon
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My turbo has a power meter,  no idea how accurate,  I did this test just so I get a baseline and can continue to monitor every month,  http://www.health-calc.com/fitness-tests/two-point-test

Also got 187 on a couple of nasty hills,  

December 31, 2011 at 2:14 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Mark Bridgman Smith
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For your personal max it has to be a test, 220 minus whatever is far too inaccurate for example I'm 41 and posted a max of 196 at the allestree cx event, having previously posted 190 on many occasions. Basically if you puke on a hill session you have got close!! I would say 3 or 4 sets up castle lane or similar, after 2 good rest days(you must be fresh!) all out/everything you've got in the last 20% should see you hit it.

December 31, 2011 at 2:29 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Paul Jezewski
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Simon, re: setting your training zones

Your right in saying 220 - age is now outdated, the new formula for finding HRmax is 206.9 - (0.67 * age) eg: 206.9 - (0.67 * 30) = a HRmax of 186.8 (187), again this is only an approximate figure and you can +/- 5 bpm depending on your fatigued state.

You then apply your HRmax into the gold standard Karvonen method:

THR ((HRmax - HRrest) * % intensity) + HRrest

eg: someone with a HRmax of 180, and a HRrest of 70

50% intensity = ((180 - 70) * 0.50) + 70 = 125

85% intensity = ((180 - 70) * 0.70) + 70 = 163

ps: to find your resting pulse take it for 1 minute 3 times in the morning, once laid down, sat up and stood up, take a mean of the 3 figures.

Hope this helps?

 

December 31, 2011 at 2:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Graham W
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To my knowledge Paul has given the current best formula and its certainly one that BC and other coaches will use. A little variability is normal. For instance, my calculated max bpm is162, but it has developed to 174 over a winters endurance training, which doesn't max out HR, but does provide heart muscle and blood vessel adaptation.

One further point - the main reason for knowing this data, which is not that useful on its own, is to calculate training zones. This is better done with a power meter, but not everyone can go this road and HR is a valid option. When you know your training zones, by HR or power, you can better develop a training programme to suit your ambitions in cycling.

 

January 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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